A simple and sober behavior of women can prevent such incidents to happen. It’s a harsh reality that girls do provoke the boys for such acts.

@ Brajesh

what a pig! Saying the girls are responsible is reprehensible! Nothing a girl does provokes any of it, those men are just filthy dogs who have no respect for women.

@Nuya

Going by the logic used by you the women who have filed fake sexual harassment cases,senior female employees who sexually harass their male staff,the female collegians who hurl abusive language on freshers are FILTHY BITCHES!!

So where is this fantasy world of yours where 90% of men are being sexually harassed?

When poled, 90 to 95% of women had been subject to eve teasing. Every newspaper in the world has done articles on the outrageous amount of street harassment of women.

If so many women are filing FAKE cases, how were there so few cases filed last year? Were all fakes and no actual harassment is going on? Then why are there so many videos and news reports of it happening?

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/eveteased-by-police-recruits-du-girls-up-in-arms/48950-3.html


I guess this 10 year old girl was provoking her harassment?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/45521/accused-denies-eveteasing-10yrold–reporters-blog.html

or this school girl, lured by a teacher then gang raped?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/45521/accused-denies-eveteasing-10yrold–reporters-blog.html

how was this girl provoking from inside a moving car?
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/one-more-noida-gangrape-accused-arrested/82181-3.html?from=search-relatedstories



I did not see one scantly clad women in this video, so why are they being harassed?
http://video.aol.in/video-detail/a-reality-check-from-indias-safest-city/1566953239


The answer is in this video.
http://video.aol.in/video-detail/a-night-out-against-eve-teasing/3426603507/?icid=VIDURVNWS01


http://video.aol.in/video-detail/chennais-eve-teasing-track-record/2917646928/?icid=VIDURVNWS07


There are thousands more where these came from, now you show me where men are being treated the same way?

”So where is this fantasy world of yours where 90% of men are being sexually harassed?”

When did I say ”90%”?

Thank God!It’s not 90% because feminists are not as successful in India as they are in US..haha

@Nuya

Sharing the experience of this gentleman.Only to tell you what’s going on in our society.In other words,the other less discussed shades.I am not posting as an counter argument but only to shed light as where are we heading towards :

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Before I started writing this post, I wanted to name it ’Eve Teasing’. However, to my surprise, here is the Wikipedia definition of Eve Teasing -

”Eve teasing is a euphemism used in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan for sexual harassment or molestation of women by men.”

What? Its a euphemism only in the sub continent? No way! Moreover, the more important part is to notice the victim here - women.

Being from Delhi, I have been often involved in discussions on how the rape capital of India houses ill mannered males. Worse, much of the lesser harassments every day on the streets of Delhi goes unreported and unopposed. I used the term ’eve teasing’ as a casual reference to sexual harassment in its oral form from both sexes.

Until last night.

Walking towards our car parked a few blocks from Adams Morgan, (read my previous experiences here from the summer of ’06), the five of us were having a good time at 3 AM on a Friday night. Amongst the gang were four college friends from 3 cities and 2 countries meeting after a long time.

”Haaaaaayyyy!!!”

The shout of a woman from somewhere across the street broke the string of Ma-Behen curse words floating for a long time. As I turned to look around, a big SUV with tinted glasses was crawling parallel to us. Inside it were 4-5 girls in their early twenties - all dressed nicely in party clothes.

”Haaay you guys, I love you all so much. I loooooooooove Indian guys. You guys are ALLLLLL f***ing virgins. I want to de-virginize you tonight. You wanna come with me tonight? I’ll eat you like a chocolate....”

In the volleys of ’We love you too baby’ cries going back and forth, something struck me for the first time. I had just been a victim of Adam Teasing (Yes, there is a Wiki word for it). It was sickening. I mean honestly, I don’t mind dirty talking after being drunk. But more importantly, I have always been on the giving end all my life. The girls left within a minute or so but I knew that I had lost something right then and there - my oft spoken ”Jiyo Maal Jiyo R**** Jiyo C*****i” anthem (my demeaning reaction on seeing a ’beautiful’ girl - note change in lingo :D ).

I could never imagine how disgusting it could be to be ’eaten’ by some stranger. I somewhat knew that the fastest reproducing racial group on this planet could be seen as sexually deprived. To top it all, I was sure that 4 out of the 5 of us were virgins.

www.ujjwalmoitra.com/2008/02/adam-teasing.html

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since 90% of women are sexually harassed, it is only equality if 90% of men are sexually harassed...right? You want in on your share the victimhood, you don’t want to be left out of the attention, right?

Well show me where an amount of men, equal to the amount of women are being victimized and not just 1 or 2 isolated incidences, and I might feel sorry for you.

@Arvind,

That article had nothing to do with India, it was in Washington DC, USA, which also has the highest crime rate in the nation and he went to a sleazy part of town. He knew exactly what he was getting into... because this was in one of his previous posts....

”””The most recent was was this last Saturday. Four of us headed towards Adam’s Morgan in the heart of DC. Since I had come to this region, I was filled up with stories about this drunkard’s paradise.”””

DRUNKARD’S PARADISE!!!He heard the stories and wanted to go, he did go


Don’t act like there are no red light districts in India either, there are prostitute districts in every country.



”””my inhibitions on shooting off glances to the stereotyped ’horny american bitches’ was gone.”””

He was looking for trouble and he found it. Why are you surprised at that?


”””I mean honestly, I don’t mind dirty talking after being drunk. But more importantly, I have always been on the giving end all my life.”””


See that...he had ALWAYS been on the giving end of the harassment. He didn’t have respect for women, but he is shocked to find they have no respect for him?


Did you read the comments?

You could have said that you were not interested in any ’pre-owned stuff’.

”Jiyo Maal Jiyo R**** Jiyo C*****i” ...I remember that!!! :D
@fuzzy: Its tough to find new stuff which has not yet been owned ever.

OWNED???? OWNED???? DID THEY SAY OWNED????? HUMMMMM! Now with that kind of attitude towards women, do you see why they have no trouble treating women badly on the sidewalks in broad daylight?




I do feel badly for him though, even if he chose to go to a bad part of town, late at night, drunk..... Those um ladies (I use the term loosely) were uncouth and were drunk and disorderly, all they had to do was call the cops and they would have been picked up.



Still it has nothing to do with Eve teasing in India.

Another bullshit from Brajesh....4 yr girl gets raped by a worker.

The kid must have provoked him, right?

Girls gets raped by their father, cousine, father in law....they all must be busy seducing men in their own families, right?

Do girls in your families seduce you guys as well, this goes for Rohan as well.

Come out of your double standards!

”We have attitude! Men don’t mess with us.”

Hats off to such attitude !It’s time for Indian women to imbibe the same spirit in a right way !!



Anyway, the battle of superiority is taking place at cost of intimacy between the opposite sex !

””Anyway, the battle of superiority is taking place at cost of intimacy between the opposite sex !””””

SAY WHAT????? tell me you were kidding? Intimacy between the opposite sex is MORE not less. You talk out of both sides of your mouth, you complain that the women are getting too sexual and then say that they aren’t sexual enough....make up your mind, which is it?

Nuya
I agree with you
The only castle a human has is their bodies and just as one wants their castle respected we should all respect other human castles and unless your invited in or to touch the castle then hands off
Males think because they plundered and raped castles all through history that they have a right to push thier will on any female castle they want- but nowadays they could get a drawbridge dropped on the weakest part of their shaky castles
Men pushed their will on woman all through history and woman had no choice but take it, now that in a few places woman push back a little men don’t like it and cry like babies
For thoes babies again woman will have to coddle men as when they were babies to make them feel better

Wayne,

”Males think because they plundered and raped castles all through history that they have a right to push thier will on any female castle they want- but nowadays they could get a drawbridge dropped on the weakest part of their shaky castles”

Men plundered not for themselves but for their women and families. Moreover, women will do the same and are already doing it. We have women Leaders who are as bad. Don’t spread you misandry here to impress women.





”Men pushed their will on woman all through history and woman had no choice but take it, now that in a few places woman push back a little men don’t like it and cry like babies
For thoes babies again woman will have to coddle men as when they were babies to make them feel better”.

Another rubbish from you. Oh yes, you are right. It is this same pushing by men that is causing 94% of deaths of men in wars and in the course of duties. Unlike earlier times, women can afford to work outside as the dangers from nature has completely vanished and man-made machinery is available. As long as there were no machines and danger from nature was high, men were asked to work and provide for women. Now, with that having gone women want to compete and control men. And guys like you conveniently forget that part. Its betrayal of men and it is insult to injury! Babies? Yes, we become cry babies when we point out to this discrepancy. So much for your intolerance. Oh, maybe you are trying to impress your women. BTW, you did’t have the guts to give me your bank account details. You want to see other men perish but never yourself.

Rohan, you are NOT perishing!!

Quit being such a cry baby! You might be a tiny bit put out but you are not anywhere near perishing!

Quit exaggerating, no one has castrated you and no one is going to, you will be fine, I promise.

Men in every industrialized country in the world have survived the women’s rights movement, you will too.

Lay off Wayne, he happens to be one of the enlightened ones who knows you can’t bring civilization forward while leaving 50% of the population behind.

@Nuya,

Men in the west are half-perished and the effects of feminism are already showing up on them. Wayne is another of those sex-starved, desperate, guy who will do anything for his sexual needs. Feminism is one route for him where he pleases women like you and hopes to get something.

You have no where answered the queries that I have put forth and my strong reasoning. It is better for you to answer them rather than divert the issue.

Wayne is not for equality. He is for women’s domination. He’s probably even a masochist and probably into BDSM. So, his logic is coloured by his emotions and sexuality. Not by actual facts.

Rohan, your reasoning is faulty, your logic fuzzy.

You think men in America are sex starved? You really do live in a fantasy world.


You argue women deserve to be raped and molested because of what they wear, even those in full burka. What you are really saying is that women do not deserve to be out of their houses.

@Nuya,

”You argue women deserve to be raped and molested because of what they wear, even those in full burka. What you are really saying is that women do not deserve to be out of their houses”

This is a deliberate twist to what I have stated and this shows the intention of feminists to avoid all responsibilities for their rights. When did I say that women deserve to be raped, either in burkha or in bikinis? I am advocating responsibilities for women for their freedom and I am quoting the distress men have to face when they encounter show-offs from women. Nowhere did I say that women deserve to be raped. But feminists want to avoid the question of responsibility and hence twist facts.

Western men die some five years earlier than women. They suffer more from nearly every medical disease and ailment that there is. And yet, far more money is spent by governments on women’s health than on men’s health. Men are also nowadays educationally disadvantaged significantly compared to women; with the curriculum, the teaching methods and the resources being designed to cater far more for women and girls than for men and boys. Men make up 80% of the homeless. There are more of them in social service care-homes as boys. They are many times more likely to be wrongfully arrested, wrongfully imprisoned, mugged, assaulted or murdered. They are 5 times more likely to lose their children when families break down, 4 times more likely to lose their homes, 4 times more likely to commit suicide, 20 times more likely to be killed or injured at work, 20 times more likely to be imprisoned, and, probably, more than 100 times more likely to be demeaned, denigrated and ridiculed by the mainstream media. Men also pay much more in taxes than women but receive far less in benefits from the government. In other words, when compared to women, men are significantly disadvantaged when it comes to their health, their lifespans, their homes, their children, their education, their families, the tax burden, the law, the benefit system, and even when it comes to their own personal safety. They are nowadays also being heavily discriminated against in the work place. How is it possible, therefore, that women are being ’oppressed’ more than men? In what areas? Where?

Men are more likely to be macho showoffs and not go to the doctor when they need to and take risks that they don’t have to because they are hard headed, not because of anything women do.

Men will jump in a tank of sharks or in front of a herd of charging bulls to show how brave they are, women not so much. That is their choice, no one makes them do foolish things.


As far as taxes, I don’t know about India, but nowhere on our documents do we even indicate gender or race, everyone pays the same percentage. Those who make more money pay more tax, simple as that. So if you pay a woman less than you pay a man, of course she will pay less tax.

Unlike you, who would use filthy words against your own dad, I don’t. Nor would my mother use foul language like feminists do.


I don’t use filthy words, I don’t call people b*tches or talk about wiping bloody asses like you do.

I have no reason to talk disrespectfully to my father, he doesn’t hate women like you do.

@Nuya,

”Men will jump in a tank of sharks or in front of a herd of charging bulls to show how brave they are, women not so much. That is their choice, no one makes them do foolish things.”

This is because society and women don’t want men to be liberated. Women want men to be in the medieval ages, protetcing and providing women, chivalrous to women and yet want women to be modern and liberated. It is the same society and women who want men to face danger and wars, rescue in natural calamities etc. while women and feminists would never ask for equality there. There is no other reason why in all wars, 94% of deaths of soldiers are of men. In some wars, all 100% is of men. Its the same with all rescue operations. Women want cosy jobs alone. and send the men for all the dangerous jobs. So, LIBERATE THE MEN. THEY ARE OPPRESSED!





”As far as taxes, I don’t know about India, but nowhere on our documents do we even indicate gender or race, everyone pays the same percentage.”

In India, women pay lesser percentage for the same pay.




”Those who make more money pay more tax, simple as that. So if you pay a woman less than you pay a man, of course she will pay less tax”.

This is your imagination. Women all over the world, especially in the west get the same wages as men for the same work. Its a manipulation of data by feminazis like you. In India, women pay less tax for the same wage as men.

@Nuya,

”I don’t use filthy words, I don’t call people b*tches or talk about wiping bloody asses like you do.”

You have used filthy words - like asses. Instead of bitches, you use some other derogatory words. Oh yes, you do not see others using these words either. You only see your opponents using them.




”I have no reason to talk disrespectfully to my father, he doesn’t hate women like you do.”

As long as he supports women, it is fine with you. He can disrespect men right?

You are imagining things, I never did use any cuss words, I just copy and paste your words. You are projecting your woman hating views on me.

@Wayne,

You hand of friendship is fine but not your absurdly feminist thoughts. You cannot get worse than this. Its simply misandry! Get a life!

He has a life, and that is what is pissing you off.

@Nuya,

”He has a life, and that is what is pissing you off.”

A sub-human and subordinate life to women and without self-respect.

A sub-human and subordinate life to women and without self-respect.


No that sounds more like your life because you are the one whining about women mistreating you, not him. If you had an ounce of self respect, you would not be here crying about how emasculated women make you feel. You would grow a pair and congratulate women for the progress they have made.

@Nuya,

”No that sounds more like your life because you are the one whining about women mistreating you, not him. If you had an ounce of self respect, you would not be here crying about how emasculated women make you feel. You would grow a pair and congratulate women for the progress they have made.”

Its women misusing their power and dominating men all over, not just me. No self-respecting men would ever accept this. Masculinity is not about surrendering to women as you want them to. I wouldn’t congratulate women for the this ”Progress” which is all about dominating men and humiliating them! I am no fool to walk into your stupid trap! I am a liberated man! I complain about women when they are in the wrong. I don’t stick to old concepts of masculinity. I simply complain against feminists. Don’t try to bring in medieval concepts of masculinity. You must know whom you are talking to.

In America the only men who object to women having rights are men like this...

http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/redneck_mentor.jpg

http://www.ahoffman.com/humor/images/Redneck.jpg

http://stuff.pyzam.com/funnypics/8/redneck.jpg


They are called Rednecks, lowbrow, uneducated, filthy, raciest, highly religious, abusive and clinging on to a brutal past. The believe that a woman’s place in in the house, having babies, waiting on men hand and foot and keeping their stupid mouths shut...or they are likely to get a fist in it.

REAL men are the exact opposite of these knuckledraggers. They are secure enough in their manhood to not have to demean a woman just to feel like a man.


Are there rednecks in India too?

@Nuya,

”They are called Rednecks, lowbrow, uneducated, filthy, raciest, highly religious, abusive and clinging on to a brutal past. The believe that a woman’s place in in the house, having babies, waiting on men hand and foot and keeping their stupid mouths shut...or they are likely to get a fist in it.”

Not really. Even the educated men are slowly realising the game played out by feminazis. Its just rights without resonsibilities! 50% of couples in America just live-in and are not married because marriage is a great risk for men. Men are scared of getting married. Its happening in India too as the marriage laws favour women.





”REAL men are the exact opposite of these knuckledraggers. They are secure enough in their manhood to not have to demean a woman just to feel like a man.”

The real goons and knuckledraggers are the feminists who are playing games. The real men understand these games and don’t fall prey to them. Manhood is not about falling prey to feminism. Nor is it about demeaning women. Its about standing for self-respect and rights of men. Feminists like you are feeling threatened as men are back!


”Are there rednecks in India too?”

There are female goons for sure and many men are waking up.

Thanks Wayne,

Same here, I see it as illogical to not utilized the talents and resources of all the citizens just because of some deep rooted prejudices. Prejudice is not logical, it is not rational or reasonable. Institutional prejudice is dangerous and it stifles progress. I guess I should move to Norway to escape the stifling religious prejudice of America, but if we all moved who would be here to fight for change?

@Wayne

”Be well and no matter what Rohan says i like the way you think —keep your logic sharp–WAYNE”

...Wayne,you may have your reason of appreciating Nuya.Even I appreciate this lady.But to say that she is in some sort of ”thinking mode” or that she is using some sort of ”sharp logic” then I think you are far away from the truth.She is more in tune with her stereotyped ideas,views and beliefs.

Ironically, you too know that very well(in your words she is a perfect formed mind) but for reasons best known to you you are trying to be more reader friendly here.That’s a good thing but one expects a better view from a genuine thinker like U.Are U afraid of moving against the current? Anyway, I don’t mind your observation.Life is an illusion.So it really doesn’t matter who’s who in world dominated by limited agendas !!

I would have really appreciated her efforts much more had she really used her brain in framing the arguments.

Anyway,I still appreciate Nuya with her stereotyped versions about happenings in world of females!!

@Wayne,

”Nuya -the reason i don’t debate with people like Rohan is because he has a formed mind like most people from the stronger influence around them
Nuya -you can see from this debate that the separation of thought is too great to mend and is why earth will always be in turmoil”

Well, its time I too stop debating with a person like you who is a misandrist to the core, an extreme feminist who believes in the superiority of the female sex.

@Nuya,

”Same here, I see it as illogical to not utilized the talents and resources of all the citizens just because of some deep rooted prejudices. Prejudice is not logical, it is not rational or reasonable. Institutional prejudice is dangerous and it stifles progress. I guess I should move to Norway to escape the stifling religious prejudice of America, but if we all moved who would be here to fight for change?”

Deep-rooted prejuduces exist in all societies and men are paying a heavy price for that. Feminism is a revolution based on prejudice against men. So, you cannot blame prejudice when you yourself are so prejudiced. Wayne is another example of extreme prejudice against men.

””Deep-rooted prejuduces exist in all societies and men are paying a heavy price for that. Feminism is a revolution based on prejudice against men. So, you cannot blame prejudice when you yourself are so prejudiced. Wayne is another example of extreme prejudice against men.”””


I don’t have any prejudices against men, I love men, I am married to one and I gave birth to one and almost all of my friends are men...as a matter of fact my best friend in college was a guy from Bangalore, he was nothing like you however.

When he was in college in America, he did not have a hateful bone in his body, he loved and helped everyone even when some of the locals were not so nice to him. That is when I stood up and fought for him, I could because I was in my element and he was not.

Whenever anyone doubted my abilities, he stood up and fought for me.

I knew how to get his paperwork to stay in the country in order and he taught me to use computers.

We hung out in the arcade and lunch together in the quad, we gave each other moral support.

Then together we found other international students to help with that horrendous paperwork and then those guys taught me more about computers...until I could write basic code for video games.

College is a very liberal place...far from the stereotypical, brainwashed, conservative agenda. I fit right in there, I am a granola munching, tree hugging, sari wearing, very liberal, hippy!

So don’t be offended if I laugh every time you call me a feminist.

@Nuya,

”I don’t have any prejudices against men, I love men, I am married to one and I gave birth to one and almost all of my friends are men...as a matter of fact my best friend in college was a guy from Bangalore, he was nothing like you however.”


He was probably not aware of feminazism. Or, he must have been brainwashed like Wayne illogical.

@Nuya,

I would the choice to decide between tradition and modernity to the people. Once they would decide on that, the next course of action would be taken. Today, there is utter confusion between modernity and tradition brought about by feminazis. If the people decide on tradition, the laws would mandate a different role for men and women, different behaviour and in short, men and women would not be competitors but play a complimentary role. Men would get some priviliges and some negatives. Same with women. If the people decide on modernity and equality, it means that both men and women get the same responsibilities and rights, unlike as it stands today where women have only rights and no responsibilities. Feminists sleep with tradition at night and kick it during day for their convenienece. You can’t have it both ways. Pay the price of equality!

How would you have people vote on that?

explain what traditional means because I am sure it is something different in America.

@Nuya,

”How would you have people vote on that?
explain what traditional means because I am sure it is something different in America.”

Voting implies a referendum.

Traditional society implies the differentiation of roles, behaviour etc. as it used to be in earlier times. The roles would be different based on the biological, psychological and anatomical differences, as against the concept of equality. This concept of equality is being used by feminists to discriminate men. Women should STOP misusing the power given to them and the advantages of tradition and modernity.

”as it used to be in earlier times. ”

what rights did women have in earlier times?

You are still being vague, exactly what rights would women have?

@Nuya,

”what rights did women have in earlier times?

You are still being vague, exactly what rights would women have? ”


This shows the stupidity and deliberate ignorance of feminists. This is the foundation of the feminist movement, a foundation on falsehood and on female victimhood.

Traditional societies had men and women perform different roles. At a time when the society was struggling and providing and protecting was not easy, and at a time when there were no machines and survival was not easy, men were made to struggle outside, bring home food and protect their women. This struggle by the men was rewarded and men were the Heads of families. On the other hand, women were made to take care of the house and look after the kids. Women were given a strict code of conduct and in return were given moral superiority over men. IN those days of struggle, women were well protected from the dangers and vagaries of nature. Men were the sacrificial goat! Women were and are still sympathised much more than men.

Now, with machines available and threat from nature having receded, women want equality. Equality in parts! Not as a whole as they want to take advantages of tradition and modernity. Women, in earlier times, got away with doing the lighter work of tending to the house.

So, this is broadly what I mean by a traditional society. Men had some priviliges and duties, women had their share of both. Feminists are conveniently denying this fact and want to portray women as ”Victims” eternally!

You are right, I am done with it too.

Socrates weeps for this lack of logic so long after he and his kindred lit the lamp. Darkness reigns where superstition and mysticism dwell.

I am always good Wayne ;)
thanks and take care.

@Wayne,

Logic??

Do you have any???

The feminist sirens remained quiet. For the victim is a man
By Kevin Meyers
Tuesday May 05 2009

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/the-feminist-sirens-remained-quiet-for-the-victim-is-a-man-1728418.html

There seems to be no empathy, no regard, no compassion for male victims.


And the case of Michael Hannon is particularly shocking

I looked, and of course, I looked in vain, for some sign of compassion for Michael Feichin Hannon, from our state-supported feminist quangos. I shouldn’t have been surprised about their silence over the grave injustice done to him: yet some small stupid part of me had retained the naïve hope that there might be some sign of ordinary human decency from our professional gender-industry.

Gender self-pity is now so deeply ingrained in the political psyche of the institutions of this State that it is apparently quite invisible to those who run them. We have lived in a political regime with a one-way rage for two decades now; and like the vegetation on a wind-blasted island, the landscape of our public morality has been utterly distorted by it. We have created a state-subsidised chorus of feminist sirens which only howls when it sees the cases that confirm that women alone are the victims of endless oppression. Naturally, the sirens — and their colleagues in the media — resolutely ignore those cases which provide contradictory evidence.

Now, a few weeks ago I was confident that the various state-subsidised feminist quangos — from the Rape Crisis Centres, to the National Council of Women, to the Equality Authority — would say nothing about the preposterously light sentence of seven years for the serial rape of a 14-year-old boy by his mother, and I was right. The fact that the judge was a woman was no doubt a factor in their silence. Her explanation for the light sentence — that the Edwardian law was more heavily biased against paternal incest was both tendentious and spurious: for the charge of sexual assault alone carries a maximum of 14 years’ imprisonment.

It’s possible that I missed some condemnation of the sentence by the vast army of feminist-commentato rs and feminist quangos: but if I did, it wasn’t for want of trying. But imagine the outcry — and very properly — if a man who had raped and sexually abused his 14-year-old daughter was sentenced to just seven years’ imprisonment by a male judge.

What troubles me most about these feminist institutions, and the feminists who run them — not all of them women by any means — is the double standards which are now a norm. There seems to be no empathy, no regard, no compassion for male victims. So the case of Michael Hannon is particularly shocking, not merely because it could so easily happen again, but because of the lack of outcry resulting from it. Twelve years ago this innocent young man was framed by a malicious 10-year-old girl, Una Hardester, and duly found guilty of assault and sexual assault. His life could have been ruined. That it wasn’t was because his family believed in his innocence.

That same year, three young Irish soldiers on holiday in Cyprus were similarly accused by an Irish girl. Only 15 hours later, after the men had been arrested on charges of rape, and under questioning from a detective who doubted her allegations, did the accuser break down and admit that her claims were baseless. She was sentenced to four months imprisonment.

Cue, outcry from Irish feminists, not over the attempt by a young Irishwoman to use the proper loathing for the crime of rape to ruin the lives of three innocent men, but because she was imprisoned at all. Condemning the jail sentence, Olive Braiden of the Rape Crisis Centre, said it would deter rape victims from reporting cases, and anyway, there was more to this case ”than met the eye”: whatever that cheap slur might mean. Anne O’Donnell, formerly of the Rape Crisis Centre, similarly dismissed the seriousness of the false allegations of rape, and, briefly appointing herself as both judge and jury in some hypothetical Cypriot court, declared that the woman’s word alone would never have been enough to have secured a rape conviction. Ah. So that’s all right then.

Fast forward to the Hannon case. Racked with guilt, Una Hardester returned from the US nearly three years ago to admit to her false allegations. Her sworn statement was known to An Garda Siochana and the office of the Director Public Prosecutions. But, quite scandalously, it was never passed to Michael Hannon’s solicitor. Michael only discovered its existence purely by chance, after his sister encountered Hardester at a petrol station. Thus, no petrol, no justice. And it gets worse. For this state then flatly refused to declare that a miscarriage had been done. Michael Hannon, having once been the victim of the law, was then obliged to return to the courts to fight for a certificate of miscarriage of justice, which the Court of Appeal issued last week.

Now, we can be quite certain if a woman had been so gravely wronged by the State in some matter relating to sexual crime, that the feminist sirens, media and quangos alike, would have been howling in anger, and demanding enquiries and heads. But in the aftermath of this case, nothing: the sirens remained as quiet as a mountain lake. For the victim is a man, so really, the injustice done to him really doesn’t count. Not in 1997, not today, and no doubt, not in 2019 either.


Kevin Myers

@Strings,

This is the reason why we have ”Secularism” being synonymous with pampering certain sections of society. SEcularism is the most misused word in India, twisted to suit certain agendas.

And women are treated unequally? Then, how are the men being treated? Have you thought about it? Men in India are treated as dogs as in America!

Rohan,

You win, I cried when I saw this realized that you are not even human. I had wasted my time on a Taliban sympathizer, hoping beyond hope that there was a shred of decency in you somewhere. I knew you hated women, but I didn’t realize until I saw this, exactly how much you hate us.

This aught to make you very very happy, lots and lots of links of women being murdered by your friends the Taliban.

lots of pictures of dead women and women being beaten, I am sure it will bring you much joy.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/13/taliban-afghanistan-kandahar-achakzai-womens-rights

http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2008/07/ap-stringer-does-video-of-taliban.html


http://www.rawa.org/rules.htm



http://www.rawa.org/womanhanged.htm

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025273.php


http://richarddawkins.net/article,3734,Afghan-Taliban-kill-young-woman-man-for-eloping,AMIR-SHAH

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/140.html

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/17/pakistan.taliban/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/17/pakistan.taliban/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

http://victoria-marie-stevens.newsvine.com/_news/2009/01/12/2301130-taliban-underlines-its-growing-power-with-killing-of-dancing-girl-in-pakistan


http://www.nowpublic.com/world/taliban-kill-afghanistans-most-high-profile-policewoman


http://womenagainstshariah.blogspot.com/2009/04/taliban-attack-kill-christians-in.html

http://buzz7.com/world/now-taliban-kill-woman-ngo-employee-in-nwfp-over-obscenity-and-vulgarity-charges.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBsVbwBgLU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vMT7WGBAM&feature=related


Here is Rohan’s list of rights he would allow women, the Taliban list.


1- Complete ban on women’s work outside the home, which also applies to female teachers, engineers and most professionals. Only a few female doctors and nurses are allowed to work in some hospitals in Kabul.

2- Complete ban on women’s activity outside the home unless accompanied by a mahram (close male relative such as a father, brother or husband).

3- Ban on women dealing with male shopkeepers.

4- Ban on women being treated by male doctors.

5- Ban on women studying at schools, universities or any other educational institution. (Taliban have converted girls’ schools into religious seminaries.)

6- Requirement that women wear a long veil (Burqa), which covers them from head to toe.

7- Whipping, beating and verbal abuse of women not clothed in accordance with Taliban rules, or of women unaccompanied by a mahram.

8- Whipping of women in public for having non-covered ankles.

9- Public stoning of women accused of having sex outside marriage. (A number of lovers are stoned to death under this rule).

10- Ban on the use of cosmetics. (Many women with painted nails have had fingers cut off).

11- Ban on women talking or shaking hands with non-mahram males.

12- Ban on women laughing loudly. (No stranger should hear a woman’s voice).

13- Ban on women wearing high heel shoes, which would produce sound while walking. (A man must not hear a woman’s footsteps.)

14- Ban on women riding in a taxi without a mahram.

15- Ban on women’s presence in radio, television or public gatherings of any kind.

16- Ban on women playing sports or entering a sport center or club.

17- Ban on women riding bicycles or motorcycles, even with their mahrams.

18- Ban on women’s wearing brightly colored clothes. In Taliban terms, these are ”sexually attracting colors.”

19- Ban on women gathering for festive occasions such as the Eids, or for any recreational purpose.

20- Ban on women washing clothes next to rivers or in a public place.

21- Modification of all place names including the word ”women.” For example, ”women’s garden” has been renamed ”spring garden”.

22- Ban on women appearing on the balconies of their apartments or houses.

23- Compulsory painting of all windows, so women can not be seen from outside their homes.

24- Ban on male tailors taking women’s measurements or sewing women’s clothes.

25- Ban on female public baths.

26- Ban on males and females traveling on the same bus. Public buses have now been designated ”males only” (or ”females only”).

27- Ban on flared (wide) pant-legs, even under a burqa.

28- Ban on the photographing or filming of women.

29- Ban on women’s pictures printed in newspapers and books, or hung on the walls of houses and shops.

Apart from the above restrictions on women, the Taliban has:

- Banned listening to music, not only for women but men as well.

- Banned the watching of movies, television and videos, for everyone.

- Banned celebrating the traditional new year (Nowroz) on March 21. The Taliban has proclaimed the holiday un-Islamic.



I mourn your loss of humanity Rohan.

@Strings

One thing is certain that you know nothing about Hindu mentality !!!

Though i am from India and hate to write this: that i agree with you ;)

he he he...

Nuya,

”You win, I cried when I saw this realized that you are not even human. I had wasted my time on a Taliban sympathizer, hoping beyond hope that there was a shred of decency in you somewhere. I knew you hated women, but I didn’t realize until I saw this, exactly how much you hate us.”

What are you? Are you even an animal? I cannot call you an animal. A creature that hates men, believes in female domination, a sadist to the core who wants to treat men like slaves with no rights. The Talibans are better as they provide for their women. Here is a creature who is a femoinazi who treats men as ATM machines and slaves! Hell! I have indeed wasted my precious time on a Feminazi to wants to treat men as her slaves!




”This aught to make you very very happy, lots and lots of links of women being murdered by your friends the Taliban.”

I can post you many links of male victimisation by feminazis. I am sure you would have a NAZI - Evil smile on your face seeing the sufferings of men!

@Swati,

”Though i am from India and hate to write this: that i agree with you ;)”

Why wouldn’t you? Why wouldn’t any woman do this when they are benefitting from an anti-family movement that is also against the basic structure of the society? However, is I were to reverse this and say that Indian society is anti-male, you would change your track. Not surprising!

@Nuya

Now please don’t harbour this illusion that I am in anyway associated with Rohan.Therefore,please don’t suggest that I am by his side.I care a damn for his so-called true colour or so-called true views.

I have a mind of my own that can discriminate and judge quite well.I am neither premeditated nor stereotypical.


Hence,I will always be there for Rohan and all others who I feel are engaged in some better causes in a better way.As long he is arguing with facts and sound reasons he will always find me.The moment Rohan becomes conditioned and get lost in jungle of absurd argument he will not find me by his side.

It’s association triggered by a certain cause.It’s not blind faith in each other’s arguments that has brought us together.

Roahn’s ideas and beliefs will always be quashed by me if I find they are not in league with cause at hand in a right way.

It’s time Nuya to take care of your ”conditioned” views rather being bothered about our harmless togetherness.hehe

Well, that is heartening to know. For a moment there I was afraid that we had lost you to the Taliban as well.

I should have known better though, you seem too well educated to fall for such a savage ideology.

You know, when you talk of removing all of women’s rights and sending back to the subjugation of times past, you are not talking about something that would affect the so called feminists.

Wealthy women didn’t have to play by those rules, they had education, art, music, travel and opportunity, they had men, fathers/husbands who doted on them and indulged them.

The yolk of oppression sits squarely on the shoulders of poor women. You might think that you are no better off now because of women’s rights, but the hope that it gives to poor women is invaluable. The hope that they too can one day escape the dreary, soul crushing bonds of poverty. Even women who choose to stay home and raise children need an education.

Imagine your life if you could not read or write. How complicated would it make everyday life? How humiliating would it be if you had to ask your 6 year old to read a notice that came in the mail? How empty and colorless would your life be if all you could learn is what came in the form of soap operas on TV? How bitter would you be if your friends got to go to the movies and go on holiday but you could never leave your street?

I know what I am talking about, that is the life I escaped from. I was that 6 year old kid, opening the mail and reading it to my mother. I was 12 years old when I started driving to the store because the factory where my father worked exploded and he had to go away for 4 months. I know exactly how bitter women get when they have no options, it was all around me. House after house of women with kids and nothing to do but gossip and argue.
Of all people, you would have thought my mother would have wanted something better for her only daughter, but no, her advice to me was ”Don’t spend so much in the books, boys don’t like smart girls and you do want to get married someday, don’t you?”

That is tradition, get married and some man will take care of you. What if he doesn’t? What if he is cruel? What if he gets injured and cannot work? What if he runs off with another woman? What if he dies? That is the uncertainty you would have to live with every day of your life. If you had never known anything else, would you have the courage or the skills to survive?

What percentage of women and children live in poverty in your country? It is currently around 15% here. It was at around 55% in the 1950s, before the rights movements, rights for minorities including women.

@Nuya,

”see who you aligned yourself with? Rohan has now shown his true colors, siding with the Taliban. Please tell me that you do not share his views?????”

What the heck? Whats wrong with you???

Its you feminazis who are the new Talibanists, brutal, savage and extortionists. Want men to be your slaves and obey your orders!